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March 26th, 2010 
Ifydcat I went to this web site where the web manager uses his site to promote a product he’s selling.
He claims its the best product on the market but he kicks anybody off the site who tries to introduce another product.
its called a auto forum but its more like a spam forum for the web owners car products. A lot of site members seem to agree that the forum has become a long running commercial.
http://autopia.org/forum/hot-tub/96092-how-do-you-trash-product-youve-never-tried.html
Can anyone give an unbiased opinion?
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I tried them both and I would say they are barely average.
I was a member of the site you linked to and I decided to join other forums for that reason, over promotion of barely average products. Yes I found out that anybody can start a forum to sell anything.
I am a member of the site and I bought some Ultima wax, its no better than any other common wax.
The stuff is hard to use. you need buffers, special towels and clay and etc. I notice they will trash other products that many on the forum prefer.
Save your money.
Just a bunch of hype to get people to buy their rebottled wax.
If you mention another product on their site you get banned. Really childish.
In a word NO.
Just a forum hype product, hyped only on that forum to it’s members.
Forget about getting good information form forums. Forums like that one are just there to sing to the choir.
You can tell that by the responses in the thread you linked to.
Both of the products you mentioned are recycled renamed bulk wax.